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    Cessna 172 Skyhawk flight model mod - Image 2

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    Note from the author: Please upvote https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/workaround-for-missing-propeller-drag-please/368300

    This is no livery, this is a flight model mod. The idea is to make the flight behavior more realistic. The most important detail is a realistic maximum lift-drag ratio (L/D)max. This one change makes many other changes necessary. The second detail is I use gear and flaps drag to have a work around for missing propeller drag and ground effect. Now you can flare your airplane before touch-down.
    See http://www.andreadrian.de/FS_2020_sailplanes/ for more of my work for MSFS 2020:
    Gliders: SG-38, Aircreations 582SL
    Sailplanes: DG-808S, Ka 6E, ASK23
    Trainer: Tiger Moth
    Seaplane: Grumman Goose G21A
    Warbirds: Fokker Dr1, North American P-51D

    Flight model modification version 1.14.5.0, date 2021-03-12:

    I included "Uwa's lighting mods" from https://uwajimaya.github.io/FS2020/
    Uwajimaya, I credit your work!
    Pack version 1.13 (Feb 16, 2021)

    The NASA book "Quest for Performance: The Evolution of Modern Aircraft" tells about the C172 Skyhawk: "The zero-lift drag coefficient CD,0 of the Skyhawk is 0.0319 as compared with 0.0358 for the Cherokee, and the maximum lift-drag ratios (L/D)max for the two aircraft are 11.6 and 10.0, respectively."

    This flight level mod sets (L/D)max to 80% of the real life value. This is part of the "missing propeller drag" workaround. For (L/D)max see https://code7700.com/aero_l_over_d_max.htm

    Using the parameters drag_coef_zero_lift, htail_incidence, thrust_scalar and fuel_flow_scalar the maximum airspeed, (L/D)max and fuel consumption can be set to one operating point OP. I set the OP to no flaps, retracted landing gear, full thrust, level flight, no elevator input and altitude 10000 ft.

    I use the MSFS 2020 documentation from https://docs.flightsimulator.com/html/Samples_And_Tutorials/Defining_A_Flight_Model.htm Citations are in "". Asobo has expanded the documentation, but sadly the documentation is still far away from complete. Asobo please go on!

    To all critics of my work: First, I am an armchair pilot. If you only accept flight model mods from real life 4 stars pilots, don't use it. Second, if you think my mod is atrocious, don't use it. To everybody else: The mod is the best I can do with my knowledge of MSFS 2020. Stay happy and healthy!

    lift_coef_flaps = 0.33790
    Undo "Flight dynamics bug" workaround.

    wing_incidence = 1.5 ; Wing incidence (DEGREES)
    htail_incidence = 1.8 ; 1 ; Horizontal tail incidence (DEGREES)
    "You'll want to leave the horizontal tail Incidence at zero for the moment, this value will be used to set the default trim of the aircraft."
    Trimmed for OP with no elevator input.

    elevator_trim_neutral = 0 ; 1 ; Elevator trim max angle (absolute value) (DEGREES), for indicators only (no influence on flight model)
    I want to have the green area in the middle of VSI.

    drag_coef_zero_lift = 0.0520 ; 0.03270
    "this value is usually of around 0.02 to 0.025 for an aircraft with a glide ratio above 15, 0.03 to 0.04 for aircraft with glide ratios of about 10, and up to 0.1 for some slow bush planes with very low glide ratios."
    I use Aircraft Editor, Debug, Sim Polar VhVs to set (L/D)max (glide ratio) to a realistic value "within the limitations of MSFS 2020". The chosen value is 80% of real life (L/D)max because I use drag_coef_zero_lift as "missing propeller drag" workaround.

    drag_coef_flaps = 0.1 ; 0.04700
    I use drag_coef_flaps as "missing propeller drag" workaround, too.

    [PROPELLER]
    thrust_scalar = 1.7 ; 1.15 ; Propeller thrust scalar
    Change in drag_coef_zero_lift needs change in thrust_scalar for the same cruise_speed.

    ui_autonomy = 5 ; max duration the aircraft can fly between take-off and landing in (Hrs)
    fuel_flow_scalar = 0.70 ; 0.88 ; Fuel flow scalar
    Change in thrust_scalar needs change in fuel_flow_scalar for the same ui_autonomy. I use 80% LVR on ground to set fuel_flow_scalar.

    toe_brakes_scale = 1 ; 0.66 ; Brake scalar
    More thrust_scalar needs more toe_brakes_scale to hold airplane still on ground at thrust tests.

    pitch_stability = 0.04 ; 0.1
    roll_stability = 0.04 ; 0.1
    yaw_stability = 0.04 ; 0.1
    "You need to enter a value that is higher than zero for backwards compatibility with the legacy flight model, and you can enter 0.01 - for example - if you want only the minimum friction. If the plane has more inertia, you can enter higher values."

    flaps-position.0 = 0, -1, 0
    flaps-position.1 = 10, -1, 1 ; 10, -1, 0.5
    flaps-position.2 = 20, -1, 1 ; 20, -1, 0.75
    flaps-position.3 = 30, -1, 1
    flaps-position drag depends on flaps angle. Therefore a drag multiplier of 1 is good enough.

    "AIRCRAFT.UI_MODEL": "Cessna 172 Skyhawk (G1000)",
    [FLTSIM.0]
    title = "Cessna Skyhawk G1000 Asobo" ; Variation name
    Use original aircraft selector name and title again for bush trips and other tasks that need specific airplanes.

    Summary: "If Asobo only knew what Asobo knows". Some Asobo engineers write documentation and tell everybody what to do and why. Other Asobo engineers write cfg files. As you can see above, these two groups don't talk to each other. Specially not about the stability parameters. The C172 is one of the best Asobo models. I found little to change!
    Nowhere Asobo writes about the importance of (L/D)max (glide ratio) and how to set a proper (L/D)max. For me is a bad (L/D)max value the single most important reason for poor quality of (Asobo) flight models. Let's see what Asobo will do in the next software release!

    Note from the author: Please upvote https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/workaround-for-missing-propeller-drag-please/368300

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    about 1 year ago

    merci c`est super

    over 4 years ago

    I downloaded the file and put it in my community folder but it doesn't show up in the sim. Any solutions?

    almost 5 years ago

    are there any upcoming changes scince asobo have updated the flight model in Sim Update 4? thanks

    over 4 years ago

    Same question re SU5, and now SU6. No updates to the mod or responses to messages since March 2021 (7 months at time of writing) so I wonder if the author has moved on?

    almost 5 years ago

    Is this still working after this update? 1.16.2.0

    almost 5 years ago

    That's a good question.

    @paulfalke is this mod compatible with the latest fs version?

    about 5 years ago

    Hi. Does someone checked performance on C172 classic? (not glass). I more or less satisfied about default .....but stab trim is inadequate for my opinion and I expect to fix it
    PaulFalkeAuthor

    about 5 years ago

    I have no C172 classic. And I have heard that you can not change the cfg files of the premium/deluxe airplanes. Last I have heard that some crackers have broken the cipher - but this is nothing for me.

    about 5 years ago

    hello I am using addons linker; and I cannot install this mod. Should this mod be replaced in ' one store' in the original folder of the Cessna 172 thank you
    PaulFalkeAuthor

    about 5 years ago

    I don't know "addons linker". My files (the contents of the zip file, not the zip file itself) belong in the community folder.

    about 5 years ago

    So, I have a issue, I was doing a week ago or so a mission bush trip aka https://flightsim.to/file/4227/uk-south-coast-bush-trip
    I've download and used your mod and it seems not to be finding the aircraft as its always sending me to content manager, but if I remove the MOD everything is back to normal.
    Can this be fixed?

    PS: previous mod I didn't have a issue
    PaulFalkeAuthor

    about 5 years ago

    The bush trip shall work now. Please test and report. And please tell me the old working version number that I can doublecheck. Thanks!

    about 5 years ago

    "dependencies": [
    {
    "name": "fs-base-propdefs",
    "package_version": "0.1.2"
    }
    ],
    "content_type": "AIRCRAFT",
    "title": "Cessna 172 Skyhawk (G1000)",
    "manufacturer": "Textron Aviation",
    "creator": "Asobo Studio",
    "package_version": "0.1.73",
    "minimum_game_version": "1.12.12",
    "release_notes": {
    "neutral": {
    "LastUpdate": "",
    "OlderHistory": ""
    }
    },
    "total_package_size": "00000000000379615230"
    }

    I will download the latest and let you know

    about 5 years ago

    Is this needed anymore after the new MSFS2020 update?
    PaulFalkeAuthor

    about 5 years ago

    You decide. The main differences are "flight dynamics bug" workaround, realistic (L/D)max and "missing propeller drag" workaround. You can fly the Asobo C172. For contrast: you can not fly the Asobo TBM930.
    By the way: The "flight dynamics bug" was introduced with version 1.13.16.0. This version introduced other changes, like different CD,0 to (L/D)max function. I have to check version 1.13.17.0 to see if Asobo did roll back all changes or only the most noticeable.

    about 5 years ago

    Fair enough! So will you update the mod with the performance fix made by asobo?
    PaulFalkeAuthor

    about 5 years ago

    Yes. As I understand the MSFS 2020 flight model better and better and as Asobo is doing newer releases that shake the foundations of flight dynamics engine my flight model mod work is not done yet.
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    Cessna 172 Skyhawk flight model mod

    Enhance the flight behavior of your Cessna 172 Skyhawk with this flight model mod. Experience realistic lift-drag ratios, gear and flaps drag adjustments, and improved propeller drag simulation for a more authentic flying experience. Based on in-depth research and modifications, this update focuses on optimizing the aircrafts performance and behavior in Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020.

    Downloads5K
    Version1.14.5.0
    File Size88.57 KB
    Published5 years ago
    Updated5 years ago

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    MSFS2020
    Sub-CategoryFlight Physics
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    Cessna 172

    Version History

    Compatible to MSFS version 1.14.5.0. Include Uwa's lighting mods when available.

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