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DG Flugzeugbau DG-808S MSFS add-on was created under Microsoft's "Game Content Usage Rules"
using assets from Microsoft Flight Simulator X, and it is not endorsed by or affiliated with Microsoft.
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The DG Flugzeugbau DG-800 series is a family of 15 metre and 18 metre single-seat gliders and motor gliders produced by Glaser-Dirks since 1993 and by DG Flugzeugbau GmbH after 1997. It is the successor to the DG-400 and the DG-600 models. DG808S is 18m wing span competition glider. This modification has 150 pounds thrust retractable jet engine installed, which can be used for taking off or flight sustain.
If you are not planning to use engine, after flight starts on the runway press READY TO FLY immediately. If you need an engine, wait for ~10 seconds until it spins up, only then press READY TO FLY button.
As an alternative, you can use Kinetic Assistant application - it provides winch and tow functionality (animated ropes only in payware version). Same as thermals simulation - you can place thermals in soaring area manually or get hotspots from API server in one click (best coverage in central Europe).
To participate in competitions, or load just train your skills on proposed routes, you may try MSFS ALBATROSS competitions app
Even if this add-on released under TouchingCloud label, in fact that is community job - many people were involved in development, so it will be fair to list their names (in order of appearance, hope I did not forget anyone):
- Flight Simulator X dev team - 3D model
- Michael Rossi - flight model, systems
- Ian "B21" Lewis - instruments
- ANRI - flight model, competitions
- David Fairhurst - textures
- Emil Jacques Watson - textures
- Got Gravel - flight model, systems
- Pup Pryde - textures
- renderpeople - pilot model
Also many testers and media creators helping us during the process, thanks guys!
HOW TO INSTALL
Unpack archive content into Community folder
HOW TO UNINSTALL
Remove "touchingcloud-aircraft-dg808s" directory from Community
NOTES AND ISSUES
Remove fuel before flight start if you don't need the engine or just press ENGINE button on front panel after flight start.
If you want to disable vario tone, turn the knob to the right top of the vario counter-clockwise.
Sometimes map or vario gauges hang and stop working properly. You need to restart them with a relative knob - after reinitialization they could go back to work.
You can use Toggle water rudder key to release winch/tow rope created by KineticAssistant.
If you wish to create liveries for this aircraft, check layout and blank livery files
Glider configs
You are able to edit default avionics parameters by changing RUNWAY.FLT file values (in case you are starting flight on the runway). Main variables:
- UNITS_IMPERIAL = 100 Imperial / 0 Metric
- VARIO_TONE_ACTIVE = 0 vario disabled / 20 muted / 100 max volume
- VARIO_MODE = 0 NETTO / 50 AUTO / 100 TE
- NAV_SCREEN = 0 screen disabled / 100 enabled
- PILOT_TOGGLE = 0 pilot visible / 100 hide
- CANOPY OPEN = 0 canopy closed / 100 opened
- SLIDING_WINDOW = 0 window closed / 100 opened
- YAWSTRING_TOGGLE = 0 yawstring visible / 100 hide
- WINDSTRING_TOGGLE = 0 vertical wind indication enabled / 100 disabled
UPGRADE INSTRUMENTS DETAILS
by Ian "B21" Lewis
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# DG808S B21 Instruments v.44
# SUMMARY USAGE:
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The instruments will work fine "out-of-the-box" with the Cambridge Vario auto-switching between CRUISE and CLIMB modes.
HOT-KEYS:
Assign a key/button to "TOGGLE BEACON LIGHTS" to manually switch the Cambridge vario to CRUISE or CLIMB.
Assign a key/button to "TOGGLE NAV LIGHTS" (default "Alt-N"?) to select NEXT WAYPOINT in Nav Display (if you have a flightplan loaded).
Assign a key to "TOGGLE CABIN LIGHTS" (default "Alt-T" I think) to show/hide debug readings.
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# Nav Instrument / LOADING A FLIGHT PLAN
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The Nav Instrument tells you
* the name of the selected waypoint
* a pointer for the direction to go
* the altitude of the waypoint
* the distance (in Km) to go
Flight plans are not essential, but we can use them to define a soaring cross-country task.
If you start the flight with no flight plan loaded, the Nav instrument will populate a single waypoint for your starting position,
calling that 'HOME'. This isn't a bad place to start with a launch followed by a glide back to the airport following the Nav
pointer, including in a cross-wind.
If you load a flight plan (before starting the flight) then the Nav Instrument will read that and display the first waypoint. You can
select further waypoints via the hot-key/button assigned to "TOGGLE NAV LIGHTS" (default Alt-N).
You can use 'Alt-N' (by default) to step through each waypoint on the Nav Instrument. Technically in MSFS you are toggling the
Nav lights but this is a workaround to enable you to interact with the Nav Instrument.
You can create your own MSFS flight plan with Little Nav Map (or Plan G).
MSFS has it's own idea for what to do with the ALTITUDES
in your flight plan and this makes those altitudes irrelevant for soaring. If you append "+" to your waypoint NAME
e.g. "START+4000" then in this example the Nav Instrument will display 4000 (feet) for the "START" waypoint. This will be more
important if/when I add 'estimated arrival height' as a function of the Nav instrument.
An example Mifflin_Day1.pln MSFS flight plan for a soaring task is included.
See https://xp-soaring.github.io/fsx/missions/mifflin/overview.htm
Set the wind for 315 degrees / 17 knots / no gusts. This is harder than it sounds so ask the FB ground if you're unsure.
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# Cambridge Vario
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The Cambridge Vario has 3 modes
AUTO MODE:
* icon at 3-o-clock will be blank (cruise) or a circle-arrow (climb)
* Average at 6-o-clock will be:
- cruise: rolling average Netto
- climb: true climb average since entering climb mode.
* Needle and Audio will be:
- cruise: Netto
- climb: TE
In AUTO MODE the gauge will switch sensibly between the AUTO-CRUISE and AUTO-CLIMB modes, e.g. a variety of different situations will
cause the gauge to operate in AUTO-CLIMB mode (needle showing TE climb rate, AUDIO on TE, averager giving you the TRUE climb rate
since you entered this mode). For example, selecting flaps T1 or T2, flying below 70 knots in rising air will cause the
Cambridge vario to assume you are trying to thermal. Flying fast, or simply flying in a straight line without climbing, will cause
the vario to exit climb mode.
CLIMB MODE:
* icon at 3-o-clock will say "TE"
* Average at 6-o-clock will be rolling average TE
* Needle and Audio will be TE
* The vario will remain fixed in this mode, with no auto-switching
CRUISE MODE:
* icon at 3-o-clock will say "Net"
* Average at 6-o-clock will be rolling average Netto
* Needle and Audio will be Netto
* The vario will remain fixed in this mode, with no auto-switching
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# General info
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Power on/off (default Alt-B) should work as expected. The instruments should cope with 'slew mode' and 'pause' ok.
I have NOT yet programmed the Cambridge 'true average' to detect pause/slew yet.
* ASI has (top) TRUE AIRSPEED (bottom) GROUND SPEED kph
* Nav has (bottom left) GLIDE RATIO
* WINTER has (bottom) TE m/s
* Cambridge has (bottom) Netto m/s.
The Netto is calibrated with the correct polar, so in STILL AIR if you're flying properly (e.g. in the right flap, wheel up,
spoilers closed) it should read zero. Any difference is the sim flightmodel error or you are not flying in still air (easiest
check is the L/D in the Nav display).
MSFS gusts are not sensibly implemented currently, so you need to disable those or will have excessive jitter in the vario needles.
User Reviews
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Write a reviewludelca
Very often it happens to me that while flying, suddenly the right or left wing falls off and the glider collapses. Impossible to recover the loss with the stick. Only if there is enough height and without touching the stick, then it gets to recover. I just can't find the reason. The speed was correct and the trimmer too. It is frustrating that when you have managed to climb the thermals and reach the desired height, the plane falls vertically. It has never happened to me with any other glider. Has anyone had such an experience?
Pivix
lovely glider! made it up to 310, flies like a charm! i'm in love with the jet turbine! 😊
flexxair
Love it, I think the coolest glider we have in FS so far!
Joe695
Thanks a lot for this plane. It would be a good one for me, but MSFS is like a diashow with it. The other gliders works fine with smoth grafik. Rycen9 RTX3080
Quassel89
Tolle Arbeit
topher420247
if you have the engine stuck out here is how i fixed it in vr and get it to retract again. check your fuel in payload and give it 5% so that the engine can begin spooling up set your throttle so that you hear the engine begin to spool up and give power once this happens drag the fuel slider in payload back to 0 and the engine will shutdown and retract after its spooled down. ive had this happen anytime i restart a flight it just gets stuck out and i figured this out trying to not have to go back to the menu and out of vr for loading flight files again.
vncnmg
Some bug causes the aircraft to collide with the ground and crash every time I start a flight from an airport. It didn't use to do that, but it started doing it consistently, every time, since I crashed into a mountain. About 2-3 seconds after I click "ready to fly", before I've done anything, the plane crashes and I get the message "You collided with an object and caused critical damage to the aircraft". If I try quickly to press Y as soon as I click "ready to fly", to enter slew mode, I notice that the airplane doesn't start from standing still. It has some velocity already. I think that's why it crashes into the ground. I'm unable to make it stop using the slew controls. When I exit slew mode (pressing Y again), the airplane slings into the air at an enormous speed, no matter what I did while in slew mode. I have the latest sim version and the latest glider version. I hope I gave you enough information to fix this bug. Someone else reported the same thing a few months ago, from what I can see, but didn't give you enough details to understand what's going on. Thank you very much! I'll be looking out for the patch.
Deleted Account 9 month(s) ago
Same issue happened before because of inaccurate collision points coordinates, but it was fixed.
Can you please do clean reinstall of add-on in case you still use old configs?
If it does not help I can try to catch this problem myself.
vncnmg 9 month(s) ago
Apologies! I had an old version indeed. It didn't even have the engine yet! Thank you.
Zoutmax
Great job, just reporting the radio always display 0.0, latest MSFS update.
TooLowTooSlow
This is so tempting ! Downloaded and installed but facing 2 difficulties:
Anyway, I suspect I could be the problem with #1 . Probably right in my face but I simply can't figure this one out. Please, anyone?
The little flying I did with it was superb, well done
Deleted Account 9 month(s) ago
Normally engine retracted automatically after it cool down, about 2-3 minutes since you pressed STOP button (it has background light - blinking while engine starting, light up while running). When you hover cursor over the button, how much %% thrust you there indicated? it should be 0
I still don't know the reason why throttle can't be set 100%. Have you tried to use F3 key while joystick disconnected? At least you will know is it hardware issue or software.
TooLowTooSlow 9 month(s) ago
Thx for the fast revert TouchingCloud.
I ended up reinstalling the bird (a 2min job) , and this time no issue whatsoever, all worked as intended. Enjoyed a 3-hr flight in the Alpes-Maritimes in France, straggling now and then into Italy and back. Glorious it was !!!
ZSOLTEDITOR
Nice glider, made a video using only native real weather thermals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0obznbgaghE
ensifera23
Unfortunatelly there is no map showing up on the Main Panel in v. 0.11.4, just "loading codes"... The Attitude/Status tabs are not clickable anymore. Switching off the Screen and on again doesn't work, neither reload the whole aircraft via developer mode etc.. Whats wrong? last version worked superb?
Can you upload the previous versions as well to get the superb airplane work for me again? Can you fix it or have another solution? Cheers
Deleted Account 10 month(s) ago
any chance you have GTN750 installed? it has known issue with SU9 - you need to remove it or update, it screw up default Aera JS files which used for the tablet in DG.
If it's different case, please upload some examples
ensifera23 10 month(s) ago
Tip Top, it really was the PMS50 GTN750 mod that cause the issue! The DG-808s works after removing the mod out of the box now!
THX a lot 😊
jxnnycvsh
hello friend, is your improvement mod on the FA 18 SUPER HORNET no longer available? what happened? thank you!
Deleted Account 11 month(s) ago
it has to be updated for latest F/A-18 (a lot of instruments changes were applied). You can expect it next week.
Flia
Superb Mod Guys. I always want a glider with the engine. Now i have it 😊 Thank you very much for your work.
FurtherAM
Very nice work! Keep up the great work! Most Excellent!
PUA687
?Very nice, thanks!
FeGo
Great update! Thanks.
Is it possible to switch Hold bank and/or Hold course with shortcuts?
And a shortcut for the wheel brakes?
Deleted Account 12 month(s) ago
wheel brakes linked with airbrakes handle (spoilers). set spoiler axis or spoiler toggle both for air and wheel brakes.
no shortkey triggers available yet. these buttons has some advance logic (saves current aircraft data and set trim), maybe next time it will be improved.
FeGo 12 month(s) ago
Thank you for your reply. I fly with a glider controller from a bucket seat. That flies wonderfully, of course, but that makes it difficult to use your mouse all the time. In addition, the buttons mentioned are small, so it is difficult to touch with your mouse while moving/shacking the cockpit. Hence my question.
It would be very nice if there were short keys for various switching functions (also for example motor on/off and rpm) but I understand that not everyone needs that....
Thnx, Fer.
Josephm700
It gives me a new experience in flying the gliders.
AF428
Every time I try to start a flight from an airport the sim crashes. the only way to use it is from a custom departure in the air.
Deleted Account 12 month(s) ago
Crashes like crash to desktop? Or crashed into the ground with flight restart.
In first case I can't even give any advice, is same happen during landing?
A350_1000
I'm going to touch a cloud with this.
Deleted Account 12 month(s) ago
Yeah you get the point 😊
GermanEagle
Very good work ! It's fun to fly. 5 stars from me for that! This is freeware with payware quality ...thank you !